props there, but if we look at the hypothetical chances of him in 2016, he's neck and neck with hillary clinton, edging out her with independents, which is huge, but then the man who called him a rhino for embracing president obama, and with that label on him, can he unite republicans behind him? >> i think that's going to be one of the arguments that he's going to make coming out of these polls. incidentally, yesterday, i had a conversation with him about polls, not this one, but he was talking about polls go up and down and he expects it to go up and down, but he's going to use it to show he can bring people to the. he can get votes from republicans, as well as independents and democrats. >> a recent op-ed makes the case for christie. rubio had been called the republican savior. >> right. >> meanwhile, though, we have a new poll giving rubio a 26% favorability rating after his state of the union response, the watergate, and a recent "usa today" op-ed makes this case, again, putting christie over rubio. do you think that these are going to be the two men that we watch? >> well, the media certa